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Out of the two you could hardly call the Bus a ’seductive experience. The tram, on the other hand, although expensive to build, implement and maintain has more charm, is a far superior ride and has greater green credentials.

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]]> By: Social Natural http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2010/03/transporation-forum-the-art-of-seduction-in-public-transportation.html#comment-34192 Social Natural Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:38:18 +0000 http://asmarterplanet.com/?p=3512#comment-34192 Talk about seducing tourists now. Public transportation isn't bad at all. It does make our social society more clean. Talk about seducing tourists now. Public transportation isn’t bad at all. It does make our social society more clean.

]]> By: Paul Sprangers http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2010/03/transporation-forum-the-art-of-seduction-in-public-transportation.html#comment-20194 Paul Sprangers Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:06:42 +0000 http://asmarterplanet.com/?p=3512#comment-20194 I live in a smaller town, and the closest railstation is a 20 minute drive. That still means I have to get in a car. I could take the bus, but the connections don't always work well. My sister has to take the train every day. But takes a 30 minute drive by car to the trainstation every day. Simple because of this. She could go by bus (which takes 30 minutes to, because of special bus lanes in the city of the railstation) On the other side. Travelling by train is pretty comfortable in the Netherlands. Every time I fly from Schiphol (Amsterdam) I take the train. If I fly by day that is, since there is no way to get to a train station from where I live by night. And even if you get there, there are no nighttrains during the week. Only in weekends there are night trains between certain hours and certain cities. 2nd class train travelling is really good in the Netherlands. At least in the connections I sometimes use. That is about 3 times a year and only between major cities. I've been to the U.S. multiple times and I always like how convenient travelling in the big cities is. You just show up at a bus stop and a bus will be there within 10 minutes. It's probably the same in Amsterdam and Rotterdam here. Simply bevause it's financially feasible. Bottomline. Train transportation is underused in Holland because it's not convenient for a lot of people to get to a station. Once in train it's fine. But 2/3 of the people don't have easy access to a station, which in such densely populated country is pretty strange. I live in a smaller town, and the closest railstation is a 20 minute drive. That still means I have to get in a car. I could take the bus, but the connections don’t always work well. My sister has to take the train every day. But takes a 30 minute drive by car to the trainstation every day. Simple because of this. She could go by bus (which takes 30 minutes to, because of special bus lanes in the city of the railstation)

On the other side. Travelling by train is pretty comfortable in the Netherlands. Every time I fly from Schiphol (Amsterdam) I take the train. If I fly by day that is, since there is no way to get to a train station from where I live by night. And even if you get there, there are no nighttrains during the week. Only in weekends there are night trains between certain hours and certain cities.

2nd class train travelling is really good in the Netherlands. At least in the connections I sometimes use. That is about 3 times a year and only between major cities.

I’ve been to the U.S. multiple times and I always like how convenient travelling in the big cities is. You just show up at a bus stop and a bus will be there within 10 minutes. It’s probably the same in Amsterdam and Rotterdam here. Simply bevause it’s financially feasible.

Bottomline. Train transportation is underused in Holland because it’s not convenient for a lot of people to get to a station. Once in train it’s fine. But 2/3 of the people don’t have easy access to a station, which in such densely populated country is pretty strange.

]]> By: Adam Christensen http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2010/03/transporation-forum-the-art-of-seduction-in-public-transportation.html#comment-19512 Adam Christensen Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:34:43 +0000 http://asmarterplanet.com/?p=3512#comment-19512 Paul, thanks for the local perspective. Very interesting to see the realities of the Netherlands rail system. Traffic jams are a pretty good incentive to move out of cars. What's enviable for you is that it sounds like in many (most?) places, you have the option of taking a train... too often it's not even an option, at least here in the States. Paul, thanks for the local perspective. Very interesting to see the realities of the Netherlands rail system.

Traffic jams are a pretty good incentive to move out of cars. What’s enviable for you is that it sounds like in many (most?) places, you have the option of taking a train… too often it’s not even an option, at least here in the States.

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